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What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?
by minimus inthere are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
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And to think I took a vow of poverty to help built 90 sands, I am paying for it now with my heath by having another surgery on the 24th of this month to repair myself from all the heaving lifting I was demanded to do because Jehovah never asks more of us then he knows we can give. I guess Jehovah did not know that women should not lift 90 pound over their heads all day long, but I digress, but hey they get a third of a bullion dollars out of it so its all good. Just wish they would kick in for my doctor bills.
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What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?
by minimus inthere are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
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That pedophiles have a right to go door to door, not only is it OK but that I as an elders wife had to drive them around in my car as demanded to me by the CO.
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You can now get into debt using credit cards to donation to the JW's
by life is to short ini knew this was coming but to actually see it was another thing.. i am a huge dave ramsey follower where he hates debt and charging on credit cards.
he totally feels everyone should be out of debt and pay cash only.
that everyone needs to do plastic plastic surgery to cut up their credit cards.
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I knew this was coming but to actually see it was another thing.
I am a huge Dave Ramsey follower where he hates debt and charging on credit cards. He totally feels everyone should be out of debt and pay cash only. That everyone needs to do plastic Plastic surgery to cut up their credit cards. He starts his show by saying "Debt is dumb, cash is king and the paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW the status of choose in America."
I listen to him while I work and he makes so much sense about staying out of debt, etc. So about a week ago he got a call from a Pastor asking what Dave felt about putting card machines in his church so members could give their donations on line. Dave told the pastor that using debit cards was OK as it is like using cash but to put a credit card machine in his church would be going against the Bible as the Bible clearly tells us to never be in debt. Dave said to accept credit cards would be so wrong as it would encourage members to not be good stewards of their money and keeping them enslaved to this system who worships at the altar of debt and then they become enslaved to making payments that they should not have charged and that now they cannot pay back.
To me Dave makes so much sense and then I see on the JW web sight. "The following payment methods are available: Visa, Mastercard, American express, and Discover."
It just makes me speechless here a worldly person like Dave Ramsey gets it and yet the GB just wants their members to be enslaved even more than what they are by speeding money on car gas and car repairs while going out in service. In fact there is a elder who while he was a MS went bankrupt pioneering. The last time I heard his story he still felt he was right to bankrupt because he was doing Jehovah's will pioneering and it was not his fault that he could not afford tires and gas and the only way was to charge it to credit, but he says he was doing Jehovah's will.
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My 8 year old daughter tells me she is an atheist...???
by sosoconfused inso since we have not been to a meeting in 6 months or so, i decided to ask my daughter (on the way home from cheerleading practice - yeah i can't believe i am letting her engage in such a worldly activity lol) if she misses going to the kingdom hall.
she says sometimes because she can't see her friend - but she has made new friends so it doesn't bother her too much.
so i ask her, "well, what about learning about jehovah?
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I remember it so clearly right now even through it is 45 years latter when I was just five years old asking my mom where Jehovah came from. My mom gave me the same answer you were going to give your daughter that Jehovah always existed and it was just the way it is.
I remember everything about that conversation so clearly till this day, where we were what was going on around us, etc. It made no sense to me, I could not wrap my mind around what my mom was saying it was totally crazy to me. I will never forget it. When I questioned her my mom more she just got really mad at me and told me to shut up.
I thought something was wrong with me for years because everyone else seemed to get it especially at the KH all the adults seemed to think the same way my mom did. I truly thought I was mentally ill at that small age because I just could not understand the way everyone else thought.
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A scary day in FS today
by InChristAlone intoday, the jw who normally comes and his son visited my house.
we were talking on the doorstep for about ten or fifteen minutes when the son began to to faint.
i saw it coming, but i couldn't reach him before he fell backwards, hitting his head on the brick landscaping border.
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I passed out in service once myself. I was newly married and just totally exhausted from working and trying to get my time in and no I was not pregnant. I was on a Bible study with another pioneer my age, I had never been in this woman's home before and through the home had a front door she had it blocked and only used the kitchen door which then lead onto her closed in back porch and outside.
So we were in the living room and I just started to feel really sick, starting sweating and thought I was going to pass out right there. I told the sister I was with I needed to get some air and she barley acknowledged me speaking, so I got up walked through the living room into the hall way which than lead into the kitchen and the next thing I know I was waking up lying on my back in the back porch. I have not a clue how long I was out. I crawled outside and sat in the car for 10 15 minutes until I felt some better and then I went back inside the sister was going on with the study like nothing had happened. When the study was over the sister and the study insisted I was just pregnant never mentioned anything about hearing me fall or anything they just sort of blew it off like I was just being a pain for disrupting the study. I felt so stupid.
When I was alone with the sister in the car on the way back to the hall I told her I had passed out and she said I thought I heard you fall like it really irritated her. Within the week her husband told me I needed to quite pioneering if I did not have health insurance as he did not want to pay for my health care though his taxes. There was no love or carring not a mention of how I was doing just I do not want to give you a dime of my money. The sick thing is this couple went on to have two kids and somehow through home schooling as they live in the country they are able to get about $1,500 a month from the school system to help them cover the cost of the kids schooling, and yes I as a home owner now am paying for it.
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Hello and my exit story from WTS
by free2Bme13 ini thought it was fitting for me to share my freedom from the witnesses story on independence day weekend.. i dont have any secret info, just experiences that happened to me and started to open my eyes.. i was a third generation, raised in the truth kid who was never supposed to be born, and then never supposed to graduate high school.
ive now been out of high school longer than i was in school.. the beginning of the end started a little less than a decade ago.
i was late 20s at the time.
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Welcome I loved how you related your story. When you wrote this part "When I went home that evening and told my husband he looked at me with a disbelieving look and was convinced I made it up. What elder would ever say such things from the platform? But I am not that creative; I couldn't make that stuff up if I tried. "
It reminded me so much of what went on between my husband and myself. When I got married he was an elder and 17 years older then I was. My parents were strange so the elders never really gave me the time of day and I was never in the in crowd but I truly believed it was the truth with all my heart. I thought that once I was an elder's wife I would fit in but it never happened. I would tell my husband what was happening to me and he would say he just could not believe it. I was being bullied by the other pioneer sisters in the car groups and my husband would always tell me I had to be making it all up that would never happen.
Your experience of the CO yelling at you during pioneer school was the same thing that happened to me expect I was chicken to raise my hand and answer the question because in my class there were 5 long time elders and none of them knew the answer the CO just call on them and put them on the spot, so I thought that I had to be wrong and would not raise my hand. I went up to the CO during the break and asked him if I had the right answer and he just about spit in my face with anger telling me that if I would not raise my hand I had no right to come up to him now I would know the answer when class resumed. I was right and the CO just glared at me. He was such a jerk and I was just appalled that a CO could be so horrible. When I was single none of the CO's would give me the time of day so I never knew how argent and rude they could be. I thought they were appointed by Holy Spirit. How wrong was I?
Just welcome to the board gald your husband is out with you, mine is still in and it is so hard.
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Hi! I'm new here.
by abbasgreta ini have so enjoyed all your threads and input this last year!
i really feel like i know you all.
very briefly, all four of us left da troof exactly one year ago and dissed ourselves within days.
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